opensuse 10.3 : fedora 8 : ATI Radeon x1650 : black screen on boot

[vitaliy93]

EDIT BY DELFICK : I've moved the opensuse related posts from this thread here (http://forum.compiz-fusion.org/showthread.php?t=6427&highlight=ATI+Radeon+x1650)
because this thread is actually a duplicate of that thread by the same author, this post is actually before the first post of this original thread...


adamk i dont know if u remember me but u recommended me opensuse 10.3 i wanted to know if uu could help me install compiz cuz i am going crzy and i cant find a way of installing it anywhere.



i am a complete noob for linux also so i dont understand a lot so if u have any noobie guild pliz give me i searched all around the internet....and yes yes the guild on compiz fusion in opensuse website is too hard for me to understand.

[vitaliy93]

Hello, i am new to this forum my name is Vitaliy. I am new to linux also. I am running opensuse 10.3. and my video card is x1650. I am going crazy on compiz fusion and was trying to enable it for more then 1 moth already and nothing helps. I was running Ubuntu, Arch, Fedora core 8 an open suse 10.3 (wich i think is the best :)) ok so back to my prob. i want to run compiz but when i do that eaven befora i enable it in the bar thats what it says.



Your graphics card is not known to be supported by Xgl, and it is not currently configured for 3D acceleration. Xgl cannot be enabled. However, if 3D acceleration can be enabled on this card, then it might be possible to run Xgl.

You might be able to fix this using the SaX2 configuration tool. Press the button below if you'd like to try running SaX2.

If you are having problems configuring Desktop Effects, you can click the "Help" button below to visit the troubleshooting page on the openSUSE wiki for advice.



Well i am trying to figure out if ATI Radeon x1650 is supported by opensuse 10.3
also i dont know how to install the proper driver for that card and my card is supported by 3 d effects cuz when i was running windows before i had everything 3 cube and all of that so help me pliz I am very very frastrated.

[Deciare]

I'm not Adam, but cyberorg provides Compiz Fusion packages for openSuSE (http://forum.compiz-fusion.org/showthread.php?t=1415). :)

Is that the guide you followed? What didn't you understand about it?

[vitaliy93]

i did uderstand this one thnx i coulnt find it but i have another prob

when i installed the ATI RADEON X1600 driver for x1650 because thats what u r supose to do and restarted x window or server i just get a black screen after restarting the computer and the only thing i can do is go to failsafe mode but its terminal and i am new i dont know the languege.

tnx if u could help. i got the same error in ubuntu and i couldnt fix it.

[macaholic]

You installed :the x1600 driver", what exactly do you mean? There is only one blanket driver that covers all the cards from ATI.

[vitaliy93]

look i installed an ati driver and nothing worked i just get a balck screen after instalation of the driver

[delfick]

hello

I use ubuntu, so I don't know much about fedora or opensuse, but after looking at opensuse' documentation (assuming you're using opensuse now) then following the instructions over here (http://en.opensuse.org/ATI#openSUSE_10.3) means all you have to do is

# click here (http://opensuse-community.org/ati-legacy.ymp)
# Open a terminal and type "sudo aticonfig --initial" to configure the xserver
# logout and press CTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE to restart the xserver
and then you're graphics card should be installed

then to install compiz/compiz-fusion, [url=http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/X11:/XGL/openSUSE_10.3/compiz-fusion-gnome.ymp]click here[/url if you're using gnome, or [url=http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/X11:/XGL/openSUSE_10.3/compiz-fusion-kde.ymp] click here] if you're using kde as your desktop environment.

good luck :D

(btw, I've changed your thread title to better reflect your original problem)

[vitaliy93]

thats what i did but after restarting x server i get a black screen and after booting i get a black screen

the only thing i can do is to run failsafe mode wich is only a terminal and i dont know what to do . cuz i am a noob. pliz help me get rid of the black screen i restarted the linux opensuse 10.3 20 times already i am very frastrated and a bit angry cuz i was trying to figure it out for more then 1 month.

[adamk]

A blank screen when starting X sounds like a driver problem which we may, or may not, be able to help with. It could, in fact, be a bug in the driver that only ATI/AMD can resolve. However, we'd need to look at your /var/log/Xorg.0.log file before we could make that determination. Is there anyway for you to upload that file to a website somewhere (line http://pastebin.ca/ )? You could boot into failsafe mode, log in at the terminal, and then copy your /var/log/Xorg.0.log to your home directory. You could then run 'sax2-vesa' to reconfigure your X server to use the vesa driver. Once you reboot, you'll be able to get into KDE or gnome again and then can paste your old log file to http://pastebin.ca/

Adam

[vitaliy93]

ok thnx for reply but


i am noob to linux i safd it 10 times i ddint get any word u sad sorry can u explain it like u would of explain it to a new person to linux?

[delfick]

let me break down adamk's post for you :D

A blank screen when starting X sounds like a driver problem which we may, or may not, be able to help with.

It could, in fact, be a bug in the driver that only ATI/AMD can resolve.[/quote]

basically, it might be the only people who can fix your problems with that particular card is ATI/AMD
(the people making the driver (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Device_driver) for it)

However, we'd need to look at your /var/log/Xorg.0.log file before we could make that determination.

that file might contain errors that will help us solve your problem

to get it, when you log into the failsafe terminal, do the following

$ cp /var/log/Xorg.0.log ~/Desktop
which will copy the file in question to your Desktop

$ sax2-vesa
which will reconfigure the xserver to use the vesa driver, which is like a failsafe driver, which means it will work, (but don't expect any special effects, or anything to be even fast...)

$ sudo reboot
reboot your computer

once you've rebooted and logged in, you should see the /var/log/Xorg.0.log file on your desktop,
open it up,
copy the contents,
go to http://pastebin.ca/ and paste the contents there,
submit it and give us the resulting url

good luck :D

[vitaliy93]

everything was fine when i did it i restarted but when i try to type my username and password it sims to log in but then it goes back to the login screen

and it doesnt say the pass was wrong or somethin and i am sure i did it right.!!!! :confused:

[adamk]

Try logging in at the console (or in safe mode) and removing compiz-manager and compiz ( 'sudo rpm -e compiz-manager compiz' *should* do that). Then reboot and try logging back in again.

Adam

[vitaliy93]

ok i will try it now and really thnx for replying i really apriciate it thnx :)

[vitaliy93]

i dont understand what it has to deal with compiz manager

and it tells me that its not installed but this is the first thing i installed lol,,,,,,


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[cyberorg]

follow the guide here:

http://en.opensuse.org/Getting_Started_with_openSUSE#ATI_Video_Drivers

To get rid of blank screen:

aticonfig --initial --input=/etc/X11/xorg.conf --force

Compiz-manager is installed via 1-click from here:

http://en.opensuse.org/Compiz_Fusion

ccsm is not compiz-manager.