David's Compiz 6.2 (NOT FUSION) : when?

[delphinen]

I have been a user of Compiz since Compiz-Quinnstorm packages were available. I never liked what Quinn did with the project, so I kept using the "normal" Compiz, that its a fact, it works faster and better.

Now im still using Compiz 0.4.0, latest stable release of Compiz NOT FUSION as far as I know, I would like to ask, when Compiz 0.6.2 NOT FUSION will be coming?

thanks in advance

[Deciare]

The latest version of Compiz is currently 0.6.2 and is available from http://releases.compiz-fusion.org/0.6.0/compiz/ . It comes with the original gconf configuration backend as well as both gtk-window-decorator and kde-window-decorator.

The plugin packages, bcop, compizconfig system packages, and the compiz-manager script are optional add-ons that may be left uninstalled if you feel that Compiz-core is sufficient to suit your needs.

[Forlong]

Just for the sake of clarification:

Compiz Fusion is not a window manager on it's own.
It is "just" a bunch of plugins and applications (such as an independent window decorator and a setup tool) to enhance the original Compiz.

[delphinen]

thanks, I will try it. I wonder what happened with the compiz.org site/domain (I mean, nobody is updating it)
another question, with the zoom plugin I can no longer "navigate" around my screen, but rather I can select what I want to zoom; my question is, can I "activate" the control of normal operation while zoomed?

[Deciare]

I don't fully understand the question, but I can think of two answers that may be what you're looking for.

The default shortcut for panning when zoomed is Super+Middle-mouse-button. Once you're zoomed in, you may use that shortcut to move the zoomed region around.

The second answer... You may not like so much. In Compiz Fusion's plugins-main package, there is an Enhanced Zoom Desktop (ezoom) plugin that allows you to move the mouse cursor and interact with windows while zoomed in. It shares the same default zoom-in and zoom-out shortcuts as the zoom plugin, so you should deactivate that before activating ezoom.

[delphinen]

I was asking for your second reply. Thanks a lot... things here seems to be very different from what I remember in older forums, everyone is very kind.

I have no idea how to install the ezoom plugin on my Compiz 6.2 core, I mean I know how to compile it I suppose, but I dont know if I have to create the proper XML configuration for example.

Thanks again for your replies.

[Deciare]

Thank you, I try to be helpful. ^_^

The easiest way to install ezoom would be to install the both the compiz-bcop and compiz-fusion-plugins-main packages from http://releases.compiz-fusion.org/0.6.0/ . bcop will automatically generate XML configuration data from the metadata present in the plugins-main package.

Both packages may be installed with the same procedure as Compiz itself:
./autogen.sh <your configure paramters here>
make
make install

There may be a way to extract only the ezoom plugin from the plugins-main package and install that alone, but to be honest, that's over my head. ^^; If you would prefer a minimalist installation, then the best I can recommend is this:
./autogen.sh <your configure paramters here>
make
cd src/ezoom/
make install
cp ../../metadata/ezoom.xml /usr/share/compiz/

[delphinen]

hmm I see... thanks a lot, but I will wait to David's own way/plugin/confirmation to use it, its not really the fact that im afraid of installing it, its just I dont want to slow down my Compiz even a little. Thanks again and I can see we are very fortunate to have a mod like you here.

[Deciare]

I see. I think it's possible that the admins behind compiz.org may be busy with other projects at the moment, so you might consider sending a message to RYX to ask him whether updates will be forthcoming.

[maniac]

hmm I see... thanks a lot, but I will wait to David's own way/plugin/confirmation to use it

Well, you have already David's plugin ;)


its not really the fact that im afraid of installing it, its just I dont want to slow down my Compiz even a little.

And what does this have to do with installing additional plugin packages? ;)
Install it, try it, if you're happy with it, leave it enabled - a disabled plugin has the same impact on performance as a plugin that is not installed (read: zero impact).

[delphinen]

Well, you have already David's plugin ;)


And what does this have to do with installing additional plugin packages? ;)
Install it, try it, if you're happy with it, leave it enabled - a disabled plugin has the same impact on performance as a plugin that is not installed (read: zero impact).

by the fact I have the doubt it could slow down the performance, even a little, I wont spend time installing it yet, specially if I have to research on how to do it for that plugin alone.

[maniac]

by the fact I have the doubt it could slow down the performance, even a little, I wont spend time installing it yet, specially if I have to research on how to do it for that plugin alone.
How do you back that doubt? What can I (as developer) do to make you believe my (technically backed) assertion that an unloaded plugin has _no_ impact on performance?

[delphinen]

Well... think about it, gnome-conf2 has to index all files... even if its not loaded, it means more options to choose; I know it would be silly to think this could slow down the performance, but im a paranoid with Compiz performance, thats why I only stick to core plugins.