Some ideas and possible tips/bugs

[Aidy]

I just switched from beryl to compiz and man! you can't imagine how frustrating it is for me to try and set things up the way I like them
(version 0.3.6 - gentoo)

So here are some things I noticed (there might be some things that actually can be done but that I haven't found out how to):

The scale plugin doesn't un-scale if you execute the mouse gesture again, you _have_ to click on a window or the desktop. This is not very handy if you use scale as a taskbar sorta thing.

Unlike emerald the decorator plugin does not allow changing the buttons that appear on the window. This is needed too if you want to work without a task bar (or else have scale display minimised windows - which someone is supposedly working on?)

I find making the current window transparent when your mouse is over another window extremely annoying, and I can't really find a way to disable that...

Middle clicking in scale doesn't close the window.

Windows keep appearing with the decoration under the panel.

The compiz-settings has no way to clear a mouse click shortcut (setting it to 'Disabled')

that's all i can think about for now :)

[mikedee]

The scale plugin doesn't un-scale if you execute the mouse gesture again, you _have_ to click on a window or the desktop. This is not very handy if you use scale as a taskbar sorta thing.

This is a fairly simple addition if anyone wants to add it.

Unlike emerald the decorator plugin does not allow changing the buttons that appear on the window. This is needed too if you want to work without a task bar (or else have scale display minimised windows - which someone is supposedly working on?)

I think the idea is to use other decorators themes, can you not do this with metacity themes?

I find making the current window transparent when your mouse is over another window extremely annoying, and I can't really find a way to disable that...

The compiz-settings has no way to clear a mouse click shortcut (setting it to 'Disabled')

Its still in development. You can always fall back to gconf-editor though :)

[Aidy]

Still, it's a bit silly to make a new theme just to rearrange the buttons...

Falling back to gconf-editor is what I did but I mean, it's totally crap programming to forget something as simple as clearing the shortcut entry boxes imo - and crap programming is what compiz people are bashing beryl for :p

So um does anyone know how to make the sloppy-make-visible thing go away?

[mikedee]

Falling back to gconf-editor is what I did but I mean, it's totally crap programming to forget something as simple as clearing the shortcut entry boxes imo - and crap programming is what compiz people are bashing beryl for :p

compiz-settings is a third party app which is just not finished yet, its not really crap code (in the same way that beryl is crap code). I doubt it is quite as easy as you suggest though (nothing is in this game ;)).

So um does anyone know how to make the sloppy-make-visible thing go away?

I have never seen the sloppy-make-visible thing you speak of. If you use gconf-editor and remove all plugins that you do not want then it should go (it sounds like opacify). If the worst comes to the worst then you can type
gconftool-2 --recursive-unset /apps/compiz
this will revert all your settings back to default.

[Aidy]

http://omploader.org/file/Schermafdruk5.png

In the upper left area, there's a terminal window. It has focus and is on top and everything, and as long as the mouse pointer is above the terminal window, it stays opaque. But when I move the pointer to another window, the terminal gets transparent. I find this to be very annoying.

Another thing I noticed, the transparency you set on a window goes away if you switch to another window and back to the window that you made transparent.

[mikedee]

I am not trying to be funny, but are you sure you are actually running compiz and not beryl?

All the bugs you describe sound like problems with beryl. Particularly the transparency problems.

Did you try the recursive unset command? This will revert you back to default settings.

How are you starting compiz?

[Aidy]

Yeah I'm running compiz, 100% sure :D

but OK I'll try resetting everything, it might be that there's some ancient configuration left over from previous compiz tries

EDIT
HAWT! everything works now (well the things that are supposed to work)

Edit2
The sloppy transparency thingie was caused by the opacify plugin, silly me!