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iXce
May 28th, 2007, 12:09 AM
Greetings everybody,

We need to decide the name now. Git is full of nice stuff (ccsm, wall + expo, ring switcher, firepaint...) and we all want packages for easy & clean installation. We all want some sort of artwork, and some themes for the web stuff.

Please note that this is a flame-less thread. Discussions about names should happen somewhere else, this topic is meant as a names list and _will_ be moderated if needed (though I hope it won't be needed). Please make sure that no other project or company uses the name you propose. Please also think before you post a name : does it fit its purpose ? is it shiny? is it brandable (artwork, etc) ?

A poll, featuring the best names (10 would be good) will be started in a few days and we'll hopefully have a name to work with soon (1 week or so would be nice).

Thanks.

Current list of accepted proposals:

CoCo (* 5)[/*:062e8]
OC² (* 2)[/*:062e8]
Cobalt (* 5)[/*:062e8]
Compound (* 2)[/*:062e8]
Azure (* 1)[/*:062e8]
Blitz (* 2)[/*:062e8]
Coral (* 34)[/*:062e8]
Fusion (* 13)[/*:062e8]
Nova (* 1)[/*:062e8]
Terra (* 1)[/*:062e8]
Sibyl (* 1)[/*:062e8]
Complex (* 2)[/*:062e8]
Tellurix (* 1)[/*:062e8]
Kalos (* 1)[/*:062e8]
FireFly (* 1)[/*:062e8]


Note : the * numbers after the names just show how often they were raised, it's NOT the actual vote. The numbers are not inclusive of the first post containing the suggestion (so, if an item was suggested but received no supporting posts, it would have no number after it).

Treviño
May 28th, 2007, 12:20 AM
coco is cool imho or also cocompiz :P

shame
May 28th, 2007, 12:44 AM
I'd like to second coco, but it sounds a bit like cocoa (mac os x), even though it's not the same thing, is it too close? Either way I still like the sound of it.

cornelius
May 28th, 2007, 01:27 AM
How about Compound?

Jupiter
May 28th, 2007, 02:20 AM
OC2

pronounced
O C squared

I also like coco though

nzMM
May 28th, 2007, 02:32 AM
Hi,

How about caboodle

[quote:52d36]The lot, group, or bunch: donated the whole caboodle.
A crowd or collection of people.
Any collection in its entirety; "she bought the whole caboodle[/quote:52d36]
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/caboodle
http://thesaurus.reference.com/browse/caboodle

as a verb it is a little less appealing ;)

It kinda fits our case quite well, in the sense that a window manager has to manage a whole caboodle of on screen activity.

Compiz/Beryl is a whole caboodle of contributors. There's a whole caboodle of plugins! and so on

Edit by iXce : this doesn't look brandable

cornelius
May 28th, 2007, 02:41 AM
How about Cobalt?

nzMM
May 28th, 2007, 02:43 AM
azure.

compiz: c
beryl: b
azure: a

plus it has warm fuzzy conotations.

Treviño
May 28th, 2007, 02:47 AM
Some time ago was mentioned also Coral...

Tyler
May 28th, 2007, 03:07 AM
[quote="Treviño":8dc69]Some time ago was mentioned also Coral...[/quote:8dc69]
Yeah I like Coral.

Imo we have to find a name which is really easy to remember and that gives the impression of something beautiful and well done.

DarknessssenkraD
May 28th, 2007, 04:00 AM
Morganite :lol:

imported_oprah_noodlemantra
May 28th, 2007, 07:18 AM
CICWM - Cicwm is compositing window manager.

(We could all use another recursive acronym lol)

pronounced something like /SickWM/ I guess :) I donno

Edit by iXce : not really brandable

zephir
May 28th, 2007, 08:42 AM
Coral is beautiful... but I also like Sapphire and Amber. :roll:

Edit by iXce : Sapphire is a GPU seller company, pretty much impossible then

Chema
May 28th, 2007, 11:13 AM
I like Coral too, it has a good sound, yeah i like it ^^ my vote for Coral

SmSpillaz
May 28th, 2007, 11:31 AM
I think it does sound kind of German "Blitzkrieg" but how about 'Blitz'

Why Blitz? Well, firstly it truly represents what the Compiz spirit is all about, making the desktop metaphor much easier and efficient to use through the use of OpenGL technology. For example - I can :
-Easily pick which window I want in no time and show the desktop
-Organize my thinking into workspaces easily
- I believe that this is an important one. A question I would like to put out there is 'How many times have you actually used multiple desktops properly before? How many times have you easily moved windows around desktops and tabbed between them quickly and easily.' The answer is that Compiz CAN do this! I am 'Blitzing' Multiple desktops!
-I can easily see whats happening behind windows
-I can make windows negative to see them more clearly
-The taskbar shows me what is going on around my desktop with thumbnails
-I can tile my windows quickly and easily
-My desktop has a sense of smoothness
-I do not have a jagged resize. Resize is smooth and quick and I can easily see the window's dimentions (Stretch mode)
-I can easily group windows together and tab between them to remove clutter. A great example of this is tabbing and application with its terminal to flip between the two. I also tab between Pidgin windows easily
-I can make any window transparent, dark or desaturated by default. I can also make windows sticky, always-on-top, above, below, fullscreen and on a particular desktop easily.

We are truly not only at the eye-candy age but the smoothness and asthetic age
-Windows are smoothly moved and not artificilly jagged
-Windows minimzie smoothly and I can see what is happening
-Windows behind transparency are smoothed by blur.
-I can use mouse gestures to activatte actions
-I can use hot corners to activate actions
-I can use keyboard shortcuts to activate actions

As you can see, I have really blitzed my desktop. Ive taken control of it and made my work much more speedy and much easier. I've also had a little fun along the way. If you don't think that Blitz is the answer, then take a name that really says that Compiz is speedy and makes everything easier to use. I'm going to go look at some Web 2.0 style names now :D

-SmSpillaz

Cisco
May 28th, 2007, 11:36 AM
Coral it's the best, IMHO

SmSpillaz
May 28th, 2007, 11:43 AM
Quiq

As suggested by Web 2.0 Namr

Edit by iXce : I'm not sure that this is the best way to find an appropriate name :p

hells_dark
May 28th, 2007, 01:08 PM
Coral because
1) it sounds well :)
2 ) compiz - beryl / coral : of course
3) easy to remember
4) Corals are beautiful
:)

delfick
May 28th, 2007, 02:25 PM
blitz ftw!



(coral = bad :D)

foxy123
May 28th, 2007, 05:24 PM
comzart = community, compiz, art, Mozart (who was a composer)...

imnotpc
May 28th, 2007, 05:50 PM
I'd like to offer Rock3d for the new name.

- It has interesting wordplay: Rocked or Rock 3d
- Rock itself has tons of meanings and connotations in English, i.e. solid as a rock, rock steady, your desktop rocks.
- It ties stability and and 3d graphics together.
- Rock is also slang for diamonds in keeping with the gemstone theme.
- There are lots of potential logos ranging from mountains (Rock of Gibraltar type look) to diamonds.
- I've already registered the .net and .org domains so we don't need to use a knockoff domain name.
- It's a unique name that isn't used commercially.

Jeff

CookedGryphon
May 28th, 2007, 06:45 PM
Mac has Aqua, Windows has Aero, so i reckon we choose between fire and earth... fire's cooler so "Pyro window manager" if you want to take the greek root, ignis/aduro if you prefer latin.

EDIT:
Scratch that.. damn Python Remote Objects got there first. Maybe just Pyr ... pyr makes it sound less like a certain dragon...

imported_Rob2687
May 28th, 2007, 06:53 PM
How about "Vesta" :twisted:

sonicbhoc
May 28th, 2007, 08:44 PM
Vesta... :lol:

I will second OC squared because I like it.

Second up is Coral, because it's the only one I remember after skimming the list, hence it has the "memorable name" quality.

Jupiter
May 28th, 2007, 08:53 PM
Vesta... :lol:

I will second OC squared because I like it.

Second up is Coral, because it's the only one I remember after skimming the list, hence it has the "memorable name" quality.


whooohooo
i got one vote.......LOL

I like coral too cause it sounds so colorful

Klaatu
May 28th, 2007, 08:57 PM
Out of deference to the jointure, I propose a joined name:

Comryl

No one will have any claims on it. It's easy to pronounce. A logo will be completely fresh, not tied to any physical object or color. You should always remember where you came from.

franzrogar
May 28th, 2007, 09:45 PM
By prefered and explanation:

* Coral : it's nice, sort, it's red ;) and visually very good to implement a theme and icon.
* Azure : same as coral, but I prefer red over blue (blue color has some nice problem to compress using gradients)
* Cobalt : same as Coral, but sounds... different :)

* OC² : visually nice, but... not very good to be themeable, also for package naming OC^2... well... you now ;)
* Compound : it remembers to me the animal's detritus used to fertilize floors...
* Blitz : isn't over there a company who has this name? ???
* coco : no way, that's the name of a popular story: it's a monster that kidnaps children that doesn't sleep enough time... :?

gavintlgold
May 29th, 2007, 12:01 AM
Coral definitely.... It really is like a beautiful hybrid between Compiz and Beryl, but only very subtly, whilst staying its own beautiful thing as well.

Also, coral can be kind of "gummy" and is brightly colored and has many different kinds... like wobbly windows and the vast customizability.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/thailandbeach/429304694/

(btw that's a photo of coral ... very nice-looking.)

Jupiter
May 29th, 2007, 12:06 AM
Coral definitely.... It really is like a beautiful hybrid between Compiz and Beryl, but only very subtly, whilst staying its own beautiful thing as well.

Also, coral can be kind of "gummy" and is brightly colored and has many different kinds... like wobbly windows and the vast customizability.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/thailandbeach/429304694/

(btw that's a photo of coral ... very nice-looking.)


hehe..... how did you get a pic of my aquarium
makes the name Coral look great

QuinnStorm
May 29th, 2007, 12:50 AM
I have to agree that Coral is my first choice, and CoCo is probably my second (perhaps mixed-case like that too)

imported_lupine
May 29th, 2007, 12:58 AM
One thing we should try to avoid -- very, very much -- is namespace collision. Kaboodle already exists... (one could say that Corel exists too, so Coral would be bad, but they're pronounced and spelt differently so it doesn't count ;) )

Coral is still #1 for me, however. I do quite like Compound as a #2.

Since I was the proposer of coral, I should explain why it's the best possible name I guess... ;). 'Coral' is easily brandable, represents an organic, modular viewpoint, has memorability, is serene and beautifulm but rugged as well; the name is a very, very subtle blend of compiz & beryl, via (IIRC) 'coryl'; and I thought of it, and I'm amazing, so it must be an amazing name ;).

Ones I don't like... rock3d (sorry, imnotpc, it just doesn't rock my world); blitz (second world war connotations here); any blatant merging of the names 'compiz' and 'beryl'. Do we really want to end up with something analogous to 'GlaxoSmithKline'? Urgh.

/Nick

Kristian
May 29th, 2007, 01:32 AM
Coral++

arthur_kalm
May 29th, 2007, 01:44 AM
I'm going with Coral as well :P

gummybearx
May 29th, 2007, 03:07 AM
just my 2 bits...: i like cobalt, because it is a nice mixture between beryl and compiz, and sticks with beryl's gem thing (beryl/emerald/heliodor) but incorporated compiz as well......
coral is nice too

DarknessssenkraD
May 29th, 2007, 03:29 AM
And Coral stands for something, or just like the animal?

Antaeus
May 29th, 2007, 04:44 AM
Coral is a great name, but it, to me, seems to lack any real recognition factors. If someone would like me to explain why I'd be glad to do that in the appropriate forum. That being said I propose I name that garners a bit more recognition while retaining many of the properties of the so-loved "Coral"

Coryl

So there you have it. That's my vote.


(Real vote but I know it's not going to happen: Beryl ; it's appealing both visually (the conglomeration of letters) and phonetically while having a relatively unique name mixed with an already established recognition factor and very associative name (meaning that it has a unique or nearly unique association which eliminates ambiguity). Beryl is just a very nice, solid name that although it might be unfair to the compiz team to adopt, would greatly help to not only keep the project alive for a long and healthy life, but also help to invigorate it with new user, developers, maintainers etc.)

delfick
May 29th, 2007, 05:16 AM
whilst i don't like coral, it seems lot's of people do like it......

if it is used, spell is as mentioned above, as coryl....then it's all good :D

kwaanens
May 29th, 2007, 07:50 AM
I have earlier suggested simply: CC, or maybe OpenCC
Short for CompComm
CC for newbies would be CC made EZ :) And CC implies power.

OC[square] sucks, because it is too complicated to write in a normal fashion.

- Ketil

imported_oprah_noodlemantra
May 29th, 2007, 08:14 AM
Coral sounds pretty good I guess :)

DaveFiSH
May 29th, 2007, 09:23 AM
Coral and Coryl are really really nice...
they have my vote

I could design a mockup logo for "Coral" too if thats wanted.

RAOF
May 29th, 2007, 09:30 AM
I'd ideally like coco, but I think it's probably too similar to OSX's "Cocoa"

I like OC^2 (pronounced ococ, I presume :)), or maybe a merging of the two: CO^2 (pronounced coco). Hm. On second thoughts, maybe a little bit too much like carbon dioxide. Compound isn't too bad, either.

I really don't like Coral.

I'm not entirely sure it shouldn't just be "compiz-plugins" (since that's what they are), but I understand that names are important, and some people have an investment in the not-compiz name.

imported_oprah_noodlemantra
May 29th, 2007, 09:36 AM
Coral and Coryl are really really nice...
they have my vote

I could design a mockup logo for "Coral" too if thats wanted.

Wait for it until the name is decided... thou a mockup would be kinda nice ;)

sonicbhoc
May 29th, 2007, 09:42 AM
So, I like the coryl spelling better, if we were to use that. Just sayin'.

DaveFiSH
May 29th, 2007, 09:44 AM
[quote=DaveFiSH]Coral and Coryl are really really nice...
they have my vote

I could design a mockup logo for "Coral" too if thats wanted.

Wait for it until the name is decided... thou a mockup would be kinda nice ;)[/quote:6e439]
I think I might work on one anyway.
but yes Ill wait.

delfick
May 29th, 2007, 10:03 AM
I also have the worry that coco sounds too similar to apple's cocoa

CO^2 or OC^2 or whatever^2 it is, as mentioned, not appropiate due to pronounciation and packaging difficulties (there's got to be some way of narrowing down the options :P)

blitz, yeah, i like this one but as mentioned, WW2 shows it's ugly face upon saying this one

cobalt, compound, too boring a name..........(imho :D)

Azure is nice, i like that, though it doesn't sound right

Another thing to say if coryl is chosen, i hate the original reason for it's name compiz beryl.....please don't make that the official reason for the name :D (or any reason associated with the name, it's a bad reason :D)

joeyjwc
May 29th, 2007, 10:34 AM
Personally, I think Cobalt sounds really nice. Names that are too obfuscated are just annoying to say. Not to mention the fact that people will forget them more easily than nice, simple names.

roico
May 29th, 2007, 10:43 AM
I vote for coral, it's very nice name, and very brandable too... :)

shame
May 29th, 2007, 10:56 AM
I would vote coral over coryl.
Coral is a thing of beauty, coryl sounds (or looks at least) like some chemical you might find in toothpaste.

I still like coco but as I and others have said mac os x cocoa, plus branding might be an issue. When I think coco I think of clowns or the monkey from from coco-pops breakfast cereal.

some-guy
May 29th, 2007, 11:49 AM
i think the name should be completely unique.
this way when you want to search it in google you wont have to through 10 pages just to find the homepage. If coral becomes it imagine a search in google. youll find soooooooooooooooo much on oceans and stuff. :roll:

imported_oprah_noodlemantra
May 29th, 2007, 11:55 AM
[quote="some-guy":e03b2]i think the name should be completely unique.
this way when you want to search it in google you wont have to through 10 pages just to find the homepage. If coral becomes it imagine a search in google. youll find soooooooooooooooo much on oceans and stuff. :roll:[/quote:e03b2]

nothing is unique these days...
hmm maybe its time for a vote?

some-guy
May 29th, 2007, 12:24 PM
[quote="oprah_noodlemantra":c35ea]
nothing is unique there days...[/quote:c35ea]
:D well it could at least be spelled different. I prefer coryl over coral but dont like either. :|
I prefer Blitz, but we cant have that :?
:idea: maybe Quartz :!: :D :D :D :D

Forlong
May 29th, 2007, 01:54 PM
Although Coral seems to be still very popular it's already taken by another open source project: http://www.coralcdn.org


How about Chloris?
It's the greek goddess for spring, flowers and new growth.
From wikipedia:
[quote:ddcf1]Chloris ("Khloris" or ??????, from "Khloros" or ??????, meaning "greenish-yellow," "pale green," "pale," "pallid" or "fresh")[/quote:ddcf1]
I love the fact that it means fresh and new growth - that fits very well.
Greenish-yellow and pale green is also very nice for later artwork.

kwaanens
May 29th, 2007, 02:16 PM
Wasn't this thread only for suggestions, not for discussion?

Please note that this is a flame-less thread. Discussions about names should happen somewhere else, this topic is meant as a names list and _will_ be moderated if needed (though I hope it won't be needed).

iXce: Could you please edit your original post to reflect the new suggestions? My suggestions of CC and OpenCC being two. I'm sure there are others.

- Ketil

CryoGen
May 29th, 2007, 03:19 PM
Oxygen (=> easy short version: O2)

franzrogar
May 29th, 2007, 03:24 PM
Ok, going back to topic :)

Suggestion:

Sunshine - I've not found any project using this name. You can say: "Your desktop, your sunshine" (I know, slogan's awful ;) ) Why sunshine? because it's fast, clear, useful and needed; it's "renovable" (pluggable) and anyone is welcomed to use use it for free and modify it (opensource)

delfick
May 29th, 2007, 03:37 PM
Oxygen (=> easy short version: O2)

conflicts with kde's new icon set.....

Ok, going back to topic :)

Suggestion:

Sunshine - I've not found any project using this name. You can say: "Your desktop, your sunshine" (I know, slogan's awful ;) ) Why sunshine? because it's fast, clear, useful and needed; it's "renovable" (pluggable) and anyone is welcomed to use use it for free and modify it (opensource)

i can't see that happening.........

bob :: "what's that on your desktop"
Joe :: "sunshine"
bob :: "ummm, you're in your dark basement, f***ing weirdo...."


.....oh dear :D

neo
May 29th, 2007, 03:46 PM
The previous names of this project were taken from minerals (beryl, emerald, heliodor). Maybe we'll continue and find a name in [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_minerals:2ec19]a list of minerals[/url:2ec19] :-) I like Quartz.

delfick
May 29th, 2007, 03:53 PM
The previous names of this project were taken from minerals (beryl, emerald, heliodor). Maybe we'll continue and find a name in [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_minerals:1eb60]a list of minerals[/url:1eb60] :-) I like Quartz.


and at the same time create a list of things not associated with minerals and then decide whether to stick with the minerals or not....

imported_karmapolice
May 29th, 2007, 04:05 PM
The previous names of this project were taken from minerals (beryl, emerald, heliodor). Maybe we'll continue and find a name in [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_minerals:0854a]a list of minerals[/url:0854a] :-) I like Quartz.
It's like Mac OS X Quartz
http://www.apple.com/macosx/features/quartzextreme/

AiFiLTr0
May 29th, 2007, 04:11 PM
Mac has Aqua, Windows has Aero
Then let linux have Granite
That doesn't seem to conflict with anything =)
If not granite - than "ionized window manager" culd do.

franzrogar
May 29th, 2007, 04:15 PM
Another suggestion:
- Sybil - No project found this name. Why? Because sybils can see the future, so Sybil's users can "see the future" (this is better slogan than previous one).

OFF : Followign with delfick chit-chat:
Joe: I have all sunshine I need with my desktop :p On the darkest place in the world, my desktop will "sunshine"

jewelz
May 29th, 2007, 05:41 PM
I think the name should sound like compiz, and it must accentuate its opening to the community and its friendship with users
so, i found a name that sounds perfect: complex
maybe this word is frightening to english users, but it doesn't stand for complicated, but for "a whole that comprehends a number of parts, with interconnected or mutually related parts". Moreover, complex is a latin word too, and in this language it means "friend", to express its attitude to users and to the community, and "accomplice", "associate", to underline the relationship between this new project and the main project - compiz.
Sorry for my bad english, if you didn't understand something, i'll try to express my ideas with better words.

imported_oprah_noodlemantra
May 29th, 2007, 06:04 PM
I think the name should sound like compiz, and it must accentuate its opening to the community and its friendship with users
so, i found a name that sounds perfect: complex
maybe this word is frightening to english users, but it doesn't stand for complicated, but for "a whole that comprehends a number of parts, with interconnected or mutually related parts". Moreover, complex is a latin word too, and in this language it means "friend", to express its attitude to users and to the community, and "accomplice", "associate", to underline the relationship between this new project and the main project - compiz.
Sorry for my bad english, if you didn't understand something, i'll try to express my ideas with better words.

i rather like it :)

people should fear it... for it is... in fact.... teh awesome! :)

franzrogar
May 29th, 2007, 06:39 PM
I think the name should sound like compiz, and it must accentuate its opening to the community and its friendship with users
so, i found a name that sounds perfect: complex
maybe this word is frightening to english users, but it doesn't stand for complicated, but for "a whole that comprehends a number of parts, with interconnected or mutually related parts". Moreover, complex is a latin word too, and in this language it means "friend", to express its attitude to users and to the community, and "accomplice", "associate", to underline the relationship between this new project and the main project - compiz.
Sorry for my bad english, if you didn't understand something, i'll try to express my ideas with better words.
+1 I tried to think also latin words but only some of them came to me ("dies ille, dies irae", "o fortuna", terra, orbus et orbii, etc ;) )

So, I think: Quid quid latinum dictus sit, altur videtur! (Anything in Latin, sounds very important!) :)

PS for those you have read "dies ille, dies irae" lyrics : there is from I got Sybil as suggestion ;)

AiFiLTr0
May 29th, 2007, 07:00 PM
+1 fot the Sybyl idea

LukasHetzi
May 29th, 2007, 07:44 PM
Bornite sounds really cool (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bornite)

imu
May 29th, 2007, 08:08 PM
I like Coral

LukasHetzi
May 29th, 2007, 08:15 PM
I think Azurit or Bornite would be a great name ;)

barsanuphe
May 29th, 2007, 09:22 PM
So, I think: Quid quid latinum dictus sit, altur videtur! (Anything in Latin, sounds very important!) :)


I'd beg to differ and will only use two examples: anus & rectum.

otherwise, here are some ideas:

Kalos -- "beautiful" in greek.
Centifolia -- "that has 100 leaves" in latin: forget windows! with centifolia everything is so light and smooth, windows fly on and off your screen at your whim like so many leaves blown by the wind!

famelis
May 29th, 2007, 11:21 PM
Coral is brilliant.

It is Composite.

It starts with Compiz and
it continues with Beryl modified 8)

CryoGen
May 30th, 2007, 03:09 AM
Oxygen (=> easy short version: O2)

conflicts with kde's new icon set.....



Ok so...

Terra or Tellurix (from telluric)

darkhole
May 30th, 2007, 04:53 AM
I think, and... spend a lot of time... so, I like Coral, is funny, ease to remember (a lot of thing were made behind the name "beryl", but if you look to our friend google, you'll find Beryl!!).

A petition, I want that all of ours expand this discussion to anybody.. I will make this to the Ubuntu Mailing List (Spanish!!)

guitarist
May 30th, 2007, 08:05 AM
I know there is Kompose ( I don't know how to add the accent on the e), but it's outdated and not super-popular, so how about:

Compose

It has all kinds of links to Compiz (even sounds similar) and composite, it's stately and elegant, even....composed.

It will bear different spellings if people want that, and it keeps the name topical to the project, as opposed to some totally random plant/animal/mineral (not that there's anything wrong with that).

Slogans and mottoes are easy: Compose your desktop. Are you Composed? Neither Aqua nor Vista Compose the future. (OK, that last one's a stretch, but you get the point).

imported_oprah_noodlemantra
May 30th, 2007, 08:10 AM
I know there is Kompose ( I don't know how to add the accent on the e), but it's outdated and not super-popular, so how about:

Compose

It has all kinds of links to Compiz (even sounds similar) and composite, it's stately and elegant, even....composed.

It will bear different spellings if people want that, and it keeps the name topical to the project, as opposed to some totally random plant/animal/mineral (not that there's anything wrong with that).

Slogans and mottoes are easy: Compose your desktop. Are you Composed? Neither Aqua nor Vista Compose the future. (OK, that last one's a stretch, but you get the point).

Now you've really done it, I don't know which one I like anymore :)

kwaanens
May 30th, 2007, 09:09 AM
Since everyone else is making comments about which they like, I put my 2 cents in too.

- Coral is too similar to Corel (this point might not be understood fully by native English-speaking people, but for everyone else, it should be apparent)
- Compose sounds like a text editor
- Compiz != a mineral, so why are we discussing all the minerals known to man?

--Ketil

joeyjwc
May 30th, 2007, 11:32 AM
When I try to think of Compose as a noun, I think of compost. Maybe that's just me. I'm weird.

I like Cobalt. But, Tellurix definitely sounds cool.

Terra is cute because Vista has Aero and Mac OS X has Aqua. I think it has been suggested before in the old Beryl forum. It is pretty elegant. But, I think I like Tellurix better because tellurium comes from the Latin telluris, meaning planet Earth, apparently. Perhaps some derivative of tellurium, such as Tellurix, would do the trick.

jlebrech
May 30th, 2007, 01:53 PM
Zircon

xplode_me
May 30th, 2007, 03:19 PM
I'd go with CoCo.

delfick
May 30th, 2007, 03:23 PM
[quote="xplode_me":686e3]I'd go with CoCo.[/quote:686e3]

.....as xplode_me looks down at his bowl of [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coco_Pops:686e3]cocopops[/url:686e3]

Pegu
May 30th, 2007, 04:10 PM
Hi everybody,

I propose: magma

It combines the 2 elements fire and earth... plus it's fluid and very "powerful"

just my 2 cents.

Gianluca

delfick
May 30th, 2007, 04:13 PM
magma sounds cool :D

we could even create a paint magma on screen effect for it :P

marceloshima
May 30th, 2007, 04:18 PM
I really like these names but I prefer an adjective instead.
It would be cool something like rockz, beauty (cant remember more) :

compiz rockz = compiz + exciting features.
suse rockz = suse + rockz as default.
ubuntu rockz = ubuntu + rockz as default.

Otherwise my favorite is coral.

Temet
May 30th, 2007, 04:53 PM
I just registered to say : "Please, not Coral!!!!"
In France, it's the name of a powder for washing machines, it's terribly Ugly.

Why not : "Whatfu" ???

PS : means "WHAt The F*ck", what people will say seeing your screen
PS2 : yes, "Whatfu" is a joke :)
PS3 : or "waf" ? :D

lagorgy
May 30th, 2007, 05:01 PM
CoCo my firt choice
Coral second.

QuinnStorm
May 30th, 2007, 07:16 PM
I haven't really flipped through the whole thread, but I'd like to add I like 'Kalos' (is that pronounced with a "long a" like Talos?)

some-guy
May 30th, 2007, 07:22 PM
magma sounds cool :D

we could even create a paint magma on screen effect for it :P
taken http://www.magma.com/ :(

barsanuphe
May 30th, 2007, 07:24 PM
I just registered to say : "Please, not Coral!!!!"
In France, it's the name of a powder for washing machines, it's terribly Ugly.

then again, Linux is a brand of washing machine powder in Switzerland.

barsanuphe
May 30th, 2007, 07:28 PM
I haven't really flipped through the whole thread, but I'd like to add I like 'Kalos' (is that pronounced with a "long a" like Talos?)

as far as I know, it is ancient greek, so I would guess no one would really get angry if you pronounced it wrong. I thought of it using the word "kaleidoscope" as a starting point, so i guess you pronounce it as you would that word.

Jupiter
May 30th, 2007, 07:35 PM
Hey guy's... I would just like to say that we have had some really cool names
suggested and some NOT so cool at all. Please read through the thread before
making a suggestion and try and make original suggestions like for example
QuinnStorm's suggestion. I am not saying i like it "because i don't" but it is
original and unique and, shows effort of thought. We want a name that is
catchy easy to brand and inspires. So please review the thread and post your
comments on the ones you feel are appealing to you. We will keep track of
the favored names and add them to the final list for a vote.

danboy
May 30th, 2007, 08:45 PM
I like coral, easy to brand, pretty and brings composite and beryl together.

I thought about "eden" as well of course i'm not religious, but i figure it's a beautiful place w/ lot's o' temptation..

pescez
May 30th, 2007, 08:48 PM
i like both Coral/yl and Cobalt.
they both sound good.. like quiet and stable, and give me a similar sensation.
i already imagine a logo, something with a light-blue background and an orange shape..
just ideas.
anyway my suggestion is to find something brandable, easy to remember. No way for unspellable acronyms or too technical names... remember we're gonna catch a lot of new-linux-users in next months so it could be a good way to make linux+Coral/Cobalt/whatever cool!
new suggestions:
- cubiz
- aurel (latin from aurus, gold)
gonna think to someone more.

imported_lupine
May 30th, 2007, 10:06 PM
Integrating a few previous suggestions ("Sunshine, terra, blitz among others) gets me "Nova" (as in "Terra Nova" - New Earth, in pig latin?).


Also has the superlative, um, SuperNova for, erm, future supersets of Nova. Too much "super" there, but you know what I mean. And then that leads into the astronomical/astrological namespace for future apps and branding opportunities. On the whole, I like this one about as much as Coral.

Also has some phonetic links to both Novell, and Nouveau (who are amazing people who might be able to alleviate my guilty pangs at some time in the future). Which is good, I guess.

Oh, note that Corel and Coral are pronounced /very/ differently.

/Nick

shame
May 30th, 2007, 11:09 PM
Fusion - My new fave "the process by which multiple nuclei join together to form a heavier nucleus"
Fusion - "the act or process of fusing; the state of being fused"
Fusion - "a coalition of parties or factions"
Fusion - "the correct blending of the images of both eyes"

Also like:
Lava
Cobalt
Coral
Flourescence
Nova

Also may be worth noting, as beryl and compiz were so often mentioned together in the same sentence in so many articles, something that sounds good (or at least not too crap) when mentioned alongside compiz would be good.

Some examples:
compiz & coral - sounds pretty good
compiz & coco - hmm, not sure bout that one
compiz & flourescence - um, maybe not
compiz & cobalt - I like that
compiz & fusion - yess, I like that a lot

DShepherd
May 31st, 2007, 12:15 AM
Shine or Sheen is a nice name.. Compiz/Beryl does make your desktop shiny.. "Turn on shine " -- sounds good to me. What say you?

delfick
May 31st, 2007, 12:50 AM
fusion is nice...

Jupiter
May 31st, 2007, 01:03 AM
I have added some of the good choices so far and the
number they have been second'd by other's. So please
keep the good suggestions coming and continue to post
your favs.

Check the first post for updates.
viewtopic.php?f=46&t=478&st=0&sk=t&sd=a (http://forums.opencompositing.org/viewtopic.php?f=46&t=478&st=0&sk=t&sd=a)

some-guy
May 31st, 2007, 06:01 AM
fus?on and nova are my pics :D

exodus
May 31st, 2007, 07:10 AM
Magma sounds nice, but it doesn't represent the project... I don't like to think in deadly hot rock!

Fusion is nice, but it seems more of the same thing... You know: Plasma, Magma, Fusion... Mmmm.

Coral seems nice, but it remind me so much to corel... So no way.

Nova doesn't convince me



¿You know what? I choose Fusion


¿Or maybe: "Boreal", "Fractal", "Bluish", "Vision", "Magnet", "Magno"? :P

drewbug01
May 31st, 2007, 08:23 AM
I prefer Oxygen.

jewelz
May 31st, 2007, 08:27 AM
I think that this is not going to be constructive if every user writes a list of the words he likes, without even thinking of its meaning... we already have too much suggestions! So, please, stop this kind of idea-storm and be rational: you don't have to make a competition on who-will-name-this, our objective is to choose a good name.

Treviño
May 31st, 2007, 09:58 AM
drewbug01, Oxygen is already used :P
It's the fantastic KDE-4 style ;)

hells_dark
May 31st, 2007, 10:05 AM
In french coco sounds really.. ridiculous :roll:

I still thinking that Coral is a good name.
Because of what a coral is, because of how it sounds.
And not really because compiz+beryl=coral, even if it makes this name easier to remind.

I just registered to say : "Please, not Coral!!!!"
In France, it's the name of a powder for washing machines, it's terribly Ugly.
I'm french, and i even didn't know. But finally, i really don't care about that.

Steph
May 31st, 2007, 01:20 PM
Just to confirm what Hells_Dark said : in french, coco sounds seriously bad.

I think Coral sounds really good in most languages (please correct me if I am wrong), so this is definitively my vote.

And also, just as Hells_Dark said, I'm french too, and did'nt hear at all about a powder for washing machines named Coral...

franzrogar
May 31st, 2007, 02:04 PM
Hey guy's... I would just like to say that we have had some really cool names
suggested and some NOT so cool at all. Please read through the thread before
making a suggestion and try and make original suggestions like for example
QuinnStorm's suggestion. I am not saying i like it "because i don't" but it is
original and unique and, shows effort of thought. We want a name that is
catchy easy to brand and inspires. So please review the thread and post your
comments on the ones you feel are appealing to you. We will keep track of
the favored names and add them to the final list for a vote.
Hey, Sibyl get lost on thread (page 7, 1st and 5rd posts) got 2 votes ;) [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sibyl:30cf6]Info about sibyls[/url:30cf6]

jaegermeister
May 31st, 2007, 03:19 PM
Hi all,

I think that a name for this fantastic project, more than its history (the joining of the two communities), should testify it's cutting-edge character because, with kwin 4.0 emerging in the next months, there will be strong competiton over the desktops, with our screens as new battlefields.

So, in order to ease up the spread, from a marketing viewpoint "consumers" should be aware of how killer this app is, without compromises. As well, even the developers should be priced for their efforts, which are allowing us users to stay on top of all wi(n)dows trashware....

FInally, there's a tendency about using materials: beryl, coral, quartz.... why do we have to go cheap and not get the best????

And which is the best, most valuable material, the one for which our women get crazy??? It's DIAMOND, buddies!

So I suggest DIAMOND as the name!
(btw, diamond.org is still unregistered...)

When do we start a full-user-base poll?

THX

Jupiter
May 31st, 2007, 03:38 PM
I've updated the list. Please read jewelz post because it really is hard to keep track
of this. We will probably continue to gather names for a couple of more day's before
we have a vote. So far it appears that Coral is the favorite. If you have already made
a post pointing out your favorite please refrain from posting unless it is to point out
that a suggested name is already used. The object here is to gather a rational list of
at least 10 names for us to vote on. If you make a post with multiple choices then you
are not pointing out your favorite. So please when posting chose ONE. And please
read the first post to see the favored names already suggested.

delfick
May 31st, 2007, 03:45 PM
what about "Topaz"??

gatiba
May 31st, 2007, 06:09 PM
My vote is for Coral.

jewelz
May 31st, 2007, 09:57 PM
I've updated the list.
what about "my" complex? it seems that someone did like it...

Jupiter
May 31st, 2007, 10:09 PM
I've updated the list.
what about "my" complex? it seems that someone did like it...

My apologies. Updated

CryoGen
May 31st, 2007, 11:39 PM
I've updated the list.

What about "Tellurix" ?
[url=http://www.opencompositing.org/viewtopic.php?p=3268#p3268:d565f]My post[/url:d565f]
[url=http://www.opencompositing.org/viewtopic.php?p=3287#p3287:d565f]"Supporter post"[/url:d565f]

:mrgreen:

PS: Thanks you to have updated the list with "Terra" :)

Jupiter
June 1st, 2007, 12:04 AM
I've updated the list.

What about "Tellurix" ?
[url=http://www.opencompositing.org/viewtopic.php?p=3268#p3268:44609]My post[/url:44609]
[url=http://www.opencompositing.org/viewtopic.php?p=3287#p3287:44609]"Supporter post"[/url:44609]

:mrgreen:

PS: Thanks you to have updated the list with "Terra" :)

Got it. Updated.
You guy's are faster than I .....LOL

exodus
June 1st, 2007, 01:07 AM
English is not my native language, but i think "Boreal" or "Fractal" could be considered for the project name.

In spanish (which is my native language) those names sounds good (for me, at least).



I like this "idea-storm", this way we can find the perfect name... Don't stay in just the first suggestions.

Treviño
June 1st, 2007, 03:37 AM
Admins, can be fixed a time limit? :)

Antaeus
June 1st, 2007, 06:11 AM
Quick post.

Obsidian

It's basically volcanic glass that I believe is classified as a super-mineral or something similar. It can be sharper than the steel that is used for scalpels.

Plus, it just sounds pretty wicked.

thepizzaking
June 1st, 2007, 06:16 AM
Quick post.

Obsidian

I have to say, that would probably be my favourite so far, Obsidian is nice and shiny and awesome like. That would be a good slogan :lol:

barsanuphe
June 1st, 2007, 07:13 AM
I've updated the list.

Kalos got two votes as well.

some-guy
June 1st, 2007, 08:19 AM
hey can we vote for 3 three things and narrow it down like that ;)
cause i like Nova, Fusion, and Obsidian :D

AiFiLTr0
June 1st, 2007, 10:58 AM
Obsidian is already used by the developers that made nwn2 (and made it directx only with no hope of linux version.)

Vodkaneat
June 1st, 2007, 03:33 PM
Must admit, I like the word Obsidian but it doesn't make me think of a window manager (nor does Beryl, Coral, CoCo etc). I can understand Aero with Vista's transparency and Aqua with the Mac's blues, so I would lean towards Fusion, as for me that covers the vast functionality that's covered in the core and plugins.

delfick
June 1st, 2007, 04:34 PM
obsidian makes me think of this http://customize.org/litestep/themes/43363 a very popular theme for litestep

AiFiLTr0
June 1st, 2007, 05:37 PM
Hmm... May be charcoal =)

Tyler
June 1st, 2007, 06:12 PM
Coral by KO :D

cornelius
June 1st, 2007, 06:31 PM
Another suggestion: Crystal
It's pretty, it's brandable, would make nice logos, and it's not taken (at least just "crystal" is not taken) as a software name, etc...

anker
June 1st, 2007, 08:21 PM
I think that the name mustn't be pompous like coral, crystal; i'd prefer somthing of simple. :?

5ER
June 1st, 2007, 08:42 PM
Hm...since we have compiz and beryl, it should be coryl.

guitarist
June 1st, 2007, 08:54 PM
I guess Compose didn't make the cut for the main post ? :cry:

Oh well. How about Boriz?

Sounds Russian, stout, and unique. Brandable as can be, though maybe not "pretty" in the classical sense. And it's a nice combo of the two parent-names.

barsanuphe
June 1st, 2007, 10:04 PM
Oh well. How about Boriz?
No, because it sounds like boring.

Also for non-French people: coco is indeed a horrible pick. It is either an affectionate name for a child, or a sarcastic insult when you want to question one's virility. "I have coco on my desktop" would definitely not encourage French people to install it. We would sound like dumbasses, instead of everyone thinking how cool we are. Very counterproductive.

jaegermeister
June 1st, 2007, 11:01 PM
Also for non-French people: coco is indeed a horrible pick. It is either an affectionate name for a child, or a sarcastic insult when you want to question one's virility. "I have coco on my desktop" would definitely not encourage French people to install it. We would sound like dumbasses, instead of everyone thinking how cool we are. Very counterproductive.

AHAHAHAH that's great!!!!!!!!!

coz
June 1st, 2007, 11:22 PM
Hey all!
here are my suggestions;
carma
cozmo
anemone
isis
lyric
ember
primalX
Iris

djdoo
June 2nd, 2007, 02:10 AM
Firefly!

some-guy
June 2nd, 2007, 08:02 AM
since Nova is taken by the show :? , and Obsidian is taken :| ...
My Vote is for Fusion. :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

SmSpillaz
June 2nd, 2007, 11:11 AM
+1 for Fusion as it brandable and represents what we are all about.

Forlong
June 2nd, 2007, 12:50 PM
Alright, first of all I think the main criterion should be that the name sounds cool. Some suggestions really don't (which maybe is the case with mine too).

Here's my list of suggestions that sound cool and fullfill the other criteria:

Blitz - sonds very cool and doesn't remind me at all at WW2 (but then again I'm German and Blitz is just a normal word around here, meaning lightning and flash)
Fusion - nice one. Even besides the meaning behind that. A lot of cool artwork comes to mind. Like the [url=http://mitglied.lycos.de/Forlong/gtm/fusion.png:1e13a]this[/url:1e13a] and [url=http://mitglied.lycos.de/Forlong/gtm/fusion2.png:1e13a]this[/url:1e13a] (from Spider-Man 2)
Magma - I love the sound of this. And fiery glowing liquid stone is always cool. Or hot.
Firefly - definitely my favourite. Why didn't I came up with this? I love the animal, I love the series and I like the sound of it. Didn't we have a firefly-theme for the snow-plugin? And windows on fire is always a great way to show off Linux to your friends. :mrgreen:

ILLuSioN
June 2nd, 2007, 02:05 PM
Coral forever!

imported_ekerazha
June 2nd, 2007, 03:09 PM
I propose Essenza or Essentia

dash
June 2nd, 2007, 03:41 PM
I like fusion

Xanikseo
June 2nd, 2007, 03:43 PM
How about ComBe?
Compiz/Beryl

Also how about changing Coral to Corale, it just looks and sounds better IMO. :P

megaslay
June 2nd, 2007, 04:14 PM
as the name Coral is somehow taken by another project
my proposal is to change it to Coryl

sounds very nice, don't you think?

pistolinux
June 2nd, 2007, 06:02 PM
i like "Coral" very much, but... what about "Sapphire"? (even if I hope I didn't break a thousand copyright laws or "Someone" feels involved by my words hihihihi..)

AiFiLTr0
June 2nd, 2007, 06:34 PM
saphire is already taken
saphire radeon. have heard of these video cards?
Listing this thread I can see, that sybil seems best.
Some new suggestions:
fission (since the two project are merged. =) )
fireball
Brick3d (Imagine a desktop on the sides of a brick =) )
Spectre

DarknessssenkraD
June 2nd, 2007, 08:04 PM
+1 on Fusion

cga
June 2nd, 2007, 08:29 PM
+1 Coral.

*1) It is simply great; kind of fusion for the two: COmpiz + beR(y)L= Cor(a)l.

*2) it reminds me of something *beautiful* *colourful* and *precious* that takes time to build but that at the end is just awesome and astonishing.

*3) it **IS** indeed very brandable and shiny.

*4) think of it as something you have to explore submerged in the quietness of the sea and with only beautifulness all around and in front of you, think of it as a place where a lot of lifeforms can find home and build upon. (specifically the case of an API/ABI and plug-ins)

*5) it even reminds me the word [url=http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=choral:296a0]"choral"[/url:296a0], this is really possible to use in "marketing" the name of it in concomitance with the spirit of Free Software and choral work.

*6) Many other reasons could go here but I don't want to bore you with any further rants.

--
cga

Deciare
June 2nd, 2007, 08:34 PM
I've liked the name Coral since I first heard of it months ago. It evokes mental imagery of an assortment of colours (so people who passionately dislike certain colours won't be offended :P), it's a collection of many organisms unified in one, and it sounds good. ^_^

If that's taken, then I agree with the secondary choice of Coryl, too... It sounds magical to my ears. Like the name of a seer, or a calmer of storms.

And our little compositing window manager is certainly all of that!

ammunix
June 2nd, 2007, 09:01 PM
I like 'Coral', makes an impression of neatness :P

arthur_kalm
June 3rd, 2007, 12:51 AM
Just wondering when the vote will be as it was said a name was wanted within a week...

Mincer Lightbringer
June 3rd, 2007, 01:02 AM
I'd like to second the nomination of "Fusion", as that's the one I like the most -- it sounds cool, reflects that two projects are joining and in a way it also refers to compositing.

daedius
June 3rd, 2007, 03:58 AM
I like Fusion, its a very powerful name not many projects are worth having. It also has some significance to whats happening between the two great compiz and beryl groups.

Filiprino
June 3rd, 2007, 04:07 AM
+1 Fusion.

aerojad
June 3rd, 2007, 05:54 AM
I like the sound of Coral

Zorro56
June 3rd, 2007, 12:05 PM
Fusion sounds great.

deer
June 3rd, 2007, 06:02 PM
coral
i like the Coral

Ska
June 3rd, 2007, 07:07 PM
Coral sounds good!

ammunix
June 3rd, 2007, 07:30 PM
When will there be a decision\vote?

*EDIT* and Fusion is a really nice name but it's a bit un-original in my opinion, unlike Coral! :twisted:

iXce
June 3rd, 2007, 07:35 PM
The poll has just been started, after about 1 week of discussion.
Check it out at viewtopic.php?f=46&t=559 (http://forums.opencompositing.org/viewtopic.php?f=46&t=559)

ammunix
June 3rd, 2007, 08:41 PM
The poll has just been started, after about 1 week of discussion.
Check it out at viewtopic.php?f=46&t=559 (http://forums.opencompositing.org/viewtopic.php?f=46&t=559)

How come I can't vote? plus is there any IRC channel for this app?

*EDIT* Nevermind, voted!

hanzomon4
June 4th, 2007, 04:17 AM
Zen

Apollo

Zeus

My suggestions

Jupiter
June 4th, 2007, 04:28 AM
No more suggestions are being accepted as the vote has already started.
viewtopic.php?f=46&t=559 (http://forums.opencompositing.org/viewtopic.php?f=46&t=559)

imported_Yaccin
June 4th, 2007, 08:53 PM
i dont like coral, because its too much like Corel :P ( i would be ok with coryl.,.)

but i like Fusion *vote*

... and what about Supernova? :P

delfick
June 5th, 2007, 03:07 AM
if i just quote from ubuntuforums http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php? ... ost2781914 (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2781914#post2781914)

[quote="H.E. Pennypacker":4297c]Fusion? That's ridiculous. If you Google "Fusion," you'll find over 97 million results. How is this new project supposed to distinguish itself from other results, and stand out? Does anyone take name branding seriously these days?

It's unbelievable that a Google search is not even taken into account. The scientific community owns "nuclear fusion," something that will always produce more results than an open source project. In the software world, there's already something called Macromedia ColdFusion.

Nova (214 million Google results) seems to be even worse, although it is not as generic as the word fusion. Besides, its probably horrible from a UK perspective.[/quote:4297c]

Deciare
June 5th, 2007, 04:23 AM
Out of curiosity, why is Nova especially horrible from a UK perspective?

guitarist
June 5th, 2007, 06:24 AM
Out of curiosity, why is Nova especially horrible from a UK perspective?

Maybe because it reminds them of the tragic union of the two Gallagher brothers... ;)

I know this thread is kind of dying off now that the name poll is up to speed, but I don't feel like any of the names on that list represent a good (original) name for the project. There are a few shiny-sounding ones that are neat, but over-used and totally unrelated to the history of this project (composite desktop environments in X) nor to they really hint at the open-source, community-based model of the project. Some sound downright corporate (which isn't bad in itself; it's just not descriptive in this case).

So I've been racking my brain trying to come up with a context in which a name that made sense might present itself. The only place I could think to start is at the beginning. :roll: Now, this is a short-hand, abridged history from a very loosely associated outsider, so it is almost certainly inaccurate in the details. It is, however, the truth of what this project has been to me. Consider it a modern mythology.

When Compiz first started being whispered about in the corners of the Web, it quickly became obvious what the name meant. A few read-throughs of the expected development schedule and the initial videos basically branded Compiz AS Composite. There were other things out there that would allow (or mimic) some aspects of a composite desktop, but when Compiz came along, it WAS Composite Desktop. Period. It still is to many. :D

During the ascendancy of Compiz, the Quinn-storm packages were my favorite for their innovation and frequent updates (I was an alpha-whore at the time and loved spending hours and hours twiddling with things I barely understood trying to get this magical software up and running :twisted: ).

Those packages, and those that made them, because of their rapid development and inclusion of innovative ideas quickly became their own little group, separate from Compiz, and so Beryl was born, a near-clone of her sister. But while they shared much in basic structure, they also looked and acted very different.

Compiz was always the responsible sister, careful to learn new ideas carefully and well before adding them into her routine -- she didn't want to crash or let anyone down. Beryl, on the other hand, being a bit younger and more aggressive decided the sky was the limit and in a lot of cases melted her wings reaching for the sun (yay for mixed metaphors!), or just partied so hard she would be out of commission for a week or more.

Each went on in their own way for a while, and their division widened until they finally were at each other's throats on every topic -- not just topics they had reason to dispute. :evil:

Then one day the two sisters realized they were each strong and weak in their own way. The two of them together would have the drive and ambition to go after the newest and flashiest as well as the skill and discipline to complete the job in a way that would yield a solid, dependable, and simultaneously beautiful and open relationship. :mrgreen:

Out of the ashy remains of the conflagration that was the end of Beryl and Compiz arose: Feeniks, and Feeniks was not two sisters separate and conflicted, but the return of the two into the one entity from which they were birthed. An entity of rebirth, of starting over, and of continuing the same. And now Feeniks is free to soar the land without competition or namesake to once again conquer the realm of the Composite Desktop.

And we are all her little feeniks (like beatniks, but not so moody and 60 years ago), out to spread the message through the art of our desktops. 8) :D 8)

delfick
June 5th, 2007, 07:35 AM
good name, bad spelling........

Phoenix would be a better spelling :D

Fyda
June 5th, 2007, 09:34 AM
Phoenix would clash with [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phoenix:67ef3]a very lengthy list of existing entities[/url:67ef3], which may've been a reason behind the alternative spelling. Additionally, I believe it may be problematic for people to find, in spite of the attempt to make it unique; there is no advantage to "Feeniks" in spoken language, as English speakers would hear it as "Phoenix". Additionally, people might even end up searching for "Fenix", "Feenix", or other permutations of the name. (But this last argument would apply to most names anyway. Remember, not everyone is a spelling champion or a native English speaker. ;))

I would suggest that we check names on Wikipedia before suggesting them, or run a simple Google search for them. This should've been done sooner for all the suggestions; in several cases, it was done, but the discovered problems didn't seem to be recognised before putting up the poll, which is truly regrettable. I really hope a new poll with acceptable options can be set up, as I'm not satisfied with the current poll. (And I'm sure I'm not the only one.)

Also, as much as I liked your myth story, guitarist, the new name is for the set of plugins that will work with the core (which will still exist as Compiz), so the two sisters aren't exactly merging into one entity. I guess, from the word "merge," people would think this to be the case. There seems to be some confusion over that. :?

LostinSpacetime
June 5th, 2007, 11:33 AM
I really hope a new poll with acceptable options can be set up, as I'm not satisfied with the current poll. (And I'm sure I'm not the only one.)

I'm with you.. I voted for none of the proposed names. I think Coral is nice but not really original. The other ones are far from original. I would really like a name that has some mystical touch. Or technical name with more fiction.. something that touches the imagination. I'm not good with that and the only name I came up was "HoloGen". I tried to put something three dimensional in it (holo) and use an end that makes sense. I also wanted it to sound transparent and I think it does (halogen, hydrogen). However.. I believe the community is able to come up with better stuff, especially with a NEW name. PLEEEEASE!!!

bassvibe
June 5th, 2007, 03:04 PM
I guess it's too late but since I don't like any name I'd suggest 'Beryco'. Now I go voting...

darkmaster
June 5th, 2007, 06:42 PM
I Vote for Coral. It's a great name nad it really leads to a great variety of possible brands and artworks. I don't think that there's so much to bother about the name, proposing so many names and so on. Coral is just fine. Is there an end date for this topic in wich we'll elect the final name? Hope it'll be soon.

BTW: Coral is great for another reason too: Windows Vista has Aero (Which reminds of the sky) and Linux could have Coral (Which reminds of the sea). That's philosofically nice because sky and sea are really different one from another (Windows and Linux are really 2 different worlds) but they get touched in the horizon that is a meeting point for them (And that's because both Windows and Linux has a lot of free software in both versions). Let's not forget that Mac OSX has Aqua (Water) and it is based on Unix, so, it is right that compcom should become Coral. Deeper into the ocean, boys: let's start the travel together.

kwaanens
June 5th, 2007, 09:15 PM
There is a barely mentioned poll here: viewtopic.php?f=46 (http://forums.opencompositing.org/viewtopic.php?f=46)

"The poll will end at midnight UTC on the 11th of June 2007 (the midnight between next Sunday and next Monday)."

-K

d_garbage
June 5th, 2007, 10:06 PM
Name Poll: viewtopic.php?f=46&t=559 (http://forums.opencompositing.org/viewtopic.php?f=46&t=559)
The more votes the better, if you dont like the poll, just vote "none of these"
;)

shame
June 5th, 2007, 10:40 PM
That's philosofically nice because sky and sea are really different one from another (Windows and Linux are really 2 different worlds) but they get touched in the horizon that is a meeting point for them (And that's because both Windows and Linux has a lot of free software in both versions). Let's not forget that Mac OSX has Aqua (Water) and it is based on Unix, so, it is right that compcom should become Coral. Deeper into the ocean, boys: let's start the travel together.
You know sea and ocean are types of water, like aqua :D

jlebrech
June 6th, 2007, 07:36 AM
How about Nike (like the goddess).

And I think Zircon would be good ( Zirconium is an artificial diamond like crystal and it has the z of compiz)

Boring Bloke
June 6th, 2007, 09:10 AM
Ninurta

In the Sumerian mythology, God of fertility, wells and thunderstorms. His name means "Lord of the Earth". Son of Enlil, the God of the air, chief of the Sumerian Pantheon, and Ninlil, Goddess of heaven.

phearnot
June 6th, 2007, 09:31 AM
Aventurine sounds good - a kind of Spanish.
Aren't Beryl and Compiz "aventura de diversión" (an amusing adventure)? :D

unstable
June 6th, 2007, 09:48 AM
What about "aurora"? (http://images.google.com/images?um=1&ta ... n&q=aurora (http://images.google.com/images?um=1&tab=wi&hl=en&q=aurora))
or "twilight"?
or "rugiada"? (http://images.google.com/images?svnum=1 ... rch+Images (http://images.google.com/images?svnum=10&um=1&hl=en&q=rugiada&btnG=Search+Images))
or "tungsteno"?
or "shining" (or "shine")?

"CO2" would also be cool.. even thoug a clear reference to aqua

unstable
June 6th, 2007, 10:18 AM
Also "lightscape" or "photon" would be cool names!

phearnot
June 6th, 2007, 10:42 AM
Also "lightscape" or "photon" would be cool names!

Even though Photon sounds cool, [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/QNX:5cea2]QNX[/url:5cea2] has already taken it for its GUI...

Photon
June 6th, 2007, 10:53 AM
Though I fully support the opinion that "Photon" sounds cool, I vote for "Coral", too. :lol:

unstable
June 6th, 2007, 11:00 AM
eheh..
"glow"?

delfick
June 6th, 2007, 11:32 AM
and so we go from gems to references of light.................

what process did they go through to get "compiz" ??

meskalamdug
June 6th, 2007, 02:49 PM
Coral is ok

DShepherd
June 6th, 2007, 03:16 PM
Shine is kool... and no one seems to have that name already...

shame
June 6th, 2007, 05:47 PM
I remember Flow being mentioned quite a bit in beryl-dev irc as possible name.
I thought it was great at the time and I don't remember seeing it as a suggestion.

carlojekko
June 7th, 2007, 12:06 AM
coral

aldraia
June 7th, 2007, 07:33 AM
fusion sounds great

5ER
June 7th, 2007, 08:48 PM
Could also be H2O.
Btw, what's wrong with Coryl?

shame
June 7th, 2007, 08:58 PM
Could also be H2O.
Btw, what's wrong with Coryl?
Coryl sounds like a toothpaste ingredient. H20 Sounds ok though.

Neffscape
June 8th, 2007, 02:37 AM
What about Complus?
It's easy to remember (compiz+plus), it really describes the nature of the project and it sounds well

Since Complus should be a new project and not a remake of what beryl was, I don't really understand the reason to stick with minerals (btw a Coral is an organism and not a mineral).

cornelius
June 8th, 2007, 05:16 AM
I say Compiz Fusion sounds just right :)

DarknessssenkraD
June 8th, 2007, 05:20 AM
Yes Compiz Fusion looks like a very good name :D

CloudBolt
June 8th, 2007, 10:23 AM
hmm I like Coral.
We could also name it "Mondriaan" (after the dutch painter who is THE master of compositions :D)

chaosgeisterchen
June 9th, 2007, 01:00 AM
and so we go from gems to references of light.................

what process did they go through to get "compiz" ??

It definitely derives from 'composition'. But the addition is still a mystery to me.

Alliance
June 9th, 2007, 10:00 PM
I know you've got the poll in motion, but I'd like to suggest these names anyway. (if, by rare chance, the "none of these" votes win)

-Xion
-AfterBurner
-FireForge
-Virgil
-Tesla
-Rocketeer

It's just a lot of the names on the poll are very calm names, I think the one's I put have a lot more oomph to them.

rhodar
June 10th, 2007, 01:49 AM
How about

CRYSTAL ICE

Compiz Including Community Extras

Probably too late, own fault for being away too long.

davim
June 10th, 2007, 12:35 PM
How about

CRYSTAL ICE

Compiz Including Community Extras

Probably too late, own fault for being away too long.

It could be Compiz ICE or Coral ICE :P

d.orlando.0
June 10th, 2007, 05:54 PM
What do you think of "Aurora" and "Kuadro"?

5ER
June 10th, 2007, 08:19 PM
How about

CRYSTAL ICE

Compiz Including Community Extras

Probably too late, own fault for being away too long.

Why compiz including...
what about beryl including...?
Blue ICE

shame
June 10th, 2007, 10:38 PM
Now they are starting to sound like alcopops. (Not sure if alcopops are a UK only thing or not).

Alliance
June 11th, 2007, 09:33 AM
All right, I decided to make an example logo.
Think about it: AfterBurner Window Manager:
And here's a rather shoddy attempt at making a logo, with Photoshop (in WINE), and KolourPaint

http://www.2dadventure.com/ags/afterburnerlogo.png

imported_oprah_noodlemantra
June 11th, 2007, 04:01 PM
I hope this isn't just me but I did not find that logotype very appealing ... at all.
And the name is very cheesy... so the verdict: swing and a miss

Alliance
June 11th, 2007, 04:27 PM
Ah well, I gave it a shot.

delfick
June 11th, 2007, 05:20 PM
Ah well, I gave it a shot.

while i agree with oprah_noodlemantra, that's a good attitude to have :D http://www.vpsingles.com/pics/thumbsup.gif

keep trying :D

Jupiter
June 11th, 2007, 06:07 PM
Although I don't like the logo for this project, the talent and attitude is there.

Please keep trying Alliance, and thank you.

Like the song say's
[code:aca28]Sing us a song, you're the piano man
Sing us a song tonight
We're all in the mood for a melody
and you've got us feeling alright[/code:aca28]

Blaster
June 12th, 2007, 03:54 PM
Why not : "Whatfu" ???

PS : means "WHAt The F*ck", what people will say seeing your screen
PS2 : yes, "Whatfu" is a joke :)
PS3 : or "waf" ? :D

:lol: :lol: :lol:

Ta bu shi da yu
June 13th, 2007, 12:02 PM
Although Coral seems to be still very popular it's already taken by another open source project: http://www.coralcdn.org


How about Chloris?
It's the greek goddess for spring, flowers and new growth.
From wikipedia:
[quote:941f3]Chloris ("Khloris" or ??????, from "Khloros" or ??????, meaning "greenish-yellow," "pale green," "pale," "pallid" or "fresh")
I love the fact that it means fresh and new growth - that fits very well.
Greenish-yellow and pale green is also very nice for later artwork.[/quote:941f3]

Can I just point out, very gently, that this sounds like a very unpleasant disease?

Forlong
June 13th, 2007, 12:14 PM
[quote="Ta bu shi da yu":9f6e5]Can I just point out, very gently, that this sounds like a very unpleasant disease?[/quote:9f6e5]
LOL, never mind. It got virtually no supporters anyway. ;)

(yuk, those new smileys suck)

sonicbhoc
June 13th, 2007, 08:58 PM
There are like 4 name threads now. I request that they be merged into one super-huge-mega-mondo name thread.

Anyway, I'm supporting the name compcomm - Composite Community. Why? It's got a nice ring to it, it describes the goal of the project, and pretty much fulfills the requirements for a name for this project as was outlined in one of the four name threads (was it this one?).

shame
June 13th, 2007, 09:41 PM
I think the devs should choose the name or draw up shortlist themselves. The current discussions seem to be taking us further away from a name rather than closer.
I wouldn't mind if they left it as compcomm.

davim
June 13th, 2007, 09:44 PM
I think the devs should choose the name or draw up shortlist themselves. The current discussions seem to be taking us further away from a name rather than closer.
I wouldn't mind if they left it as compcomm.

I completely agree!!!! :D

delfick
June 14th, 2007, 02:47 AM
Anyway, I'm supporting the name compcomm - Composite Community. Why? It's got a nice ring to it, it describes the goal of the project, and pretty much fulfills the requirements for a name for this project as was outlined in one of the four name threads (was it this one?).

i think that's something i kept mentioning at the beginning

i don't think the devs like the idea unfortunately

sonicbhoc
June 14th, 2007, 03:14 AM
I think the devs should choose the name or draw up shortlist themselves.

I thought that they came up with a list of names and let us choose...?

Well, that's what they should've done. Could someone with a connection to the dev ML recommend this idea? I think having them choose a few good names and pitching them to us is the best way to go about this, unless you want world war 3 to keep going on in this thread.

RYX
June 14th, 2007, 11:14 AM
I think the devs should choose the name or draw up shortlist themselves.

I thought that they came up with a list of names and let us choose...?

Well, that's what they should've done. Could someone with a connection to the dev ML recommend this idea? I think having them choose a few good names and pitching them to us is the best way to go about this, unless you want world war 3 to keep going on in this thread.
That's what I have proposed several times and what apparently has been agreed on (somehow, unofficially, I think). People should sent (PM/mail) their name-proposals to the "managing team" (the devs/admins for now) who will then make up a list of good candidates. Once that list is filled with 5-10 acceptable proposals, there will be a new poll which then will make the final name selection.

So basically what imnotpc summarized on the ML, with the only difference (from my pov) that there should be no timeframe or deadline because we have no hurry with finding a name. Packages will be called "compcomm-*" until we have selected a name - the important devs can live well with that solution, that's what should be of interest here.

All this hurried name-selection chaos was absolutely unneeded and mainly related to impatience and lack of communication among the "inofficial officials".

:)

darkhack
June 20th, 2007, 12:01 PM
Here is some of the name I came up with that has a feeling to beryl and compiz:

mutation
corrosion
typhoon
eruption
meteor
collision
velocity
exploit
molecular
spectrium

I'm not sure if these already been mention since I'm still new to this forum, but I think these would be a better name for both beryl and compiz.

delfick
June 20th, 2007, 12:22 PM
lol....corrosion

d_garbage
June 20th, 2007, 12:36 PM
All interesting names, thanks for taking the time to think stuff up. Your suggestions got me thinking of other ones, which was fun, All your words had a ring to them and your imagination sparked mine

Your "corrosion" made me think of "corona" as in solar corona. Try looking in google images under "solar corona" make a good logo too.

Thanks for the inspiration darkhack 8-)

darkhack
June 20th, 2007, 01:33 PM
[quote="d_garbage":b66e8]All interesting names, thanks for taking the time to think stuff up. Your suggestions got me thinking of other ones, which was fun, All your words had a ring to them and your imagination sparked mine

Your "corrosion" made me think of "corona" as in solar corona. Try looking in google images under "solar corona" make a good logo too.

Thanks for the inspiration darkhack 8-)[/quote:b66e8]

I agree "corona" is another good one too.

d_garbage
June 20th, 2007, 02:37 PM
Thanks darkhack.

I thought I'd go a bit further with "corona" since the more i thought about it the better it became as a potential candidate.
Don't know if you know, but there is a suggested way of choosing a name which means supporting it with the following info:

- Name
- Available domain names
- At least one logo idea. This can be a written idea.
- Perform a web search and list the top 3 conflicts, if any.
- A brief description of what the name means and why we should use it.
- A brief description of any known negative connotations or meanings.

So mine would be something like:
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Name: Corona

Domain name: Corona.org

Logo:
Not good at artwork, but a google search of "solar corona" provides enough sexy images to set any artist worth their salt salivating! But as a (limited) example how about a black disk covering the sun with the word "compiz" in the centre and the word "corona" in a circle around/mingling with the glowing corona. (told you i wasn't wery good with graphics, heh).

Top 3 Conflicts:
A beer (http://www.corona.com/)
A web design company (http://www.coronait.co.uk/)
A web design/integrated hardware company (http://www.corona-technologies.co.uk/ct ... ntro.shtml (http://www.corona-technologies.co.uk/ct/services/embedded_intro.shtml))

Meaning:
Well for one thing the solar corona is a beautiful, colourful and fascinating thing. It has heat, light, energy. It is fluid and flowing and always changing. The corona also produces solar flares (check some of the images on web under "solar flare") which are sudden/unpredictable/massive bursts of energy and light, arcing into space. Also symbolically a logo using a shot of the sun covered by a black disk, showing the glowing corona around it, could well connotate the compiz-core being the "unseen heart" of the program, making up the bulk of the power, and the corona itself could be the pluggins/eye-candy wrapping. Flowing, glowing and fascinating around/being powered by the furnace/engine of the compiz core.

Bad connotations:
Well, its also a beer, and a cigar - some people might not like those. other than that can't see any. In most euro languages it seams to mean "crown". So maybe republican's would hate it?! Heh.
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"...er, thank you, Mr d_garbage: we'll call you... Next!"

:ugeek:

onestone
June 20th, 2007, 03:40 PM
I'm closing this thread now because we have a name.

delfick
June 20th, 2007, 03:49 PM
and you say that without giving a link http://forum.compiz.org/viewtopic.php?t=1313

Forlong
June 20th, 2007, 03:58 PM
Thanks for the link, delfick.