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[mikedee]

It seems like the current official package of compiz is a 0.0.1 version (the last of the compiz-quinn branch). Quinn is marked as the maintainer so I assume it will not be updated in the near future.

Has anyone spoken to the powers that be to see if it can be replaced with a more current version? It seems like they were willing to accept compiz so they should be ok for a new maintainer.

A lot of Ubuntu people on the forums there seem to be installing the old compiz and then comparing that to beryl.

[RYX]

Good idea, we should contact the "Masters Of The Universe" ... they have the power. :D
(oh how I was waiting to say that once ...)

Maybe they accept gandalfn as the new maintainer for the compiz-packages (of course only if he wants). He already has them ready and maybe it helps him if he can use the official repos ...

[mikedee]

Maybe when it is set up the compiz package could be a virtual package which installs all the compiz packages as well as the extra packages and the configuration tool. I dont see why not, I think a lot of people miss the extra package when installing :)

[nzjrs]

Would you mind contacting gandalfn directly?

Also we could raise another thread on the ubuntu-devel mailing list at some stage.

I definately feel that the favour is beginning to fall the way of compiz, the devs and people who are 'in the know' have seen the innovation in Compiz relative to the other, and now understand the relationship between the two projects.

I would bet that compiz will make the grade as the default composited WM.

For KDE i would not be surprised if they just run with the new compositing branch of KWin

[gandalfn]

hi,

I work currently for that ! I made packages for feisty , and I have sending an email Matthew Garrett to sponsor my packages on MOTU

I keep you informed of the last evolutions ;)

gandalfn

[RAOF]

Have you uploaded your packages to REVU (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Packages/REVU) yet? I can't see them up there.

That's probably the best next step - your packages will be built, various checking programs run, and the results posted so that all the MOTU can see, review, and comment.

[gandalfn]

Have you uploaded your packages to REVU (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Packages/REVU) yet? I can't see them up there.

That's probably the best next step - your packages will be built, various checking programs run, and the results posted so that all the MOTU can see, review, and comment.

I know, just time to upload and test them, they are now in REVU ;)

gandalfn

[RAOF]

Yay! One fewer thing I don't have to build for my local repository!

[gandalfn]

Hello,

First of all, I come to announce a good news !
compiz 0.3.4 (official version) was integrated into feisty, and those partially based on the package which I had posted on REVU :).

I was pretty busy in this moment for that.
Currently I work in collaboration with the ubuntu maintainers to have a functional version of compiz in feisty.

For that I seek returns compared on compiz starting options according to the XGL/AiGLX environment and the graphics board. If you can post the compiz command line which you use according to your environment, for example for me:
AiGLX Intel 915, GNOME:
compiz --strict-binding --indirect-rendering --use-cow --replace gconf
that will help much.

Also gnome-compiz-manager should be also integrated as into MOTU feisty. The time that I finish packages fix in REVU. I recently published a new version (0.10.0) available in edgy/git and feisty/motu on my repos.

gandalfn

[imnotpc]

Great news and thanks for the work you've done!

[amgeex]

I'm using the following:

AIGLX - nvidia - Gnome
compiz --replace --use-cow gconf &
gtk-window-decorator --replace &

[mikedee]

Yes, great news :)

Here are my 2 machines

6800GT, nvidia beta drivers

__GL_YIELD="NOTHING" compiz --replace --indirect-rendering --use-cow gconf &

intel i810 (dont have exact specs - hp omnibook 510)

LIBGL_ALWAYS_INDIRECT=1 compiz --replace --strict-binding --use-cow gconf &

Compiz crashes unless you specify the LIBGL part, but this may be due to buggy drivers which are fixed in fiesty, I have edgy on that machine.

You do not need to specify the window decorator in the startup script, you just have to change this configuration option and it will be started automatically.

/apps/compiz/plugins/decoration/allscreens/options/command

You could just default this to "gtk-window-decorator --replace" in the install code, currently compiz ships with it blank, Im not sure why.

[mikedee]

I have had a look through the beryl main.c file which is where most of the detection and startup options are set. From what I can work out there are 3 categories and these are the startup options.

Nvidia

__GL_YIELD="NOTHING" compiz --replace --use-cow

Aiglx

compiz --replace --indirect-rendering --use-cow --strict-binding

Xgl

compiz --replace

They seem strange to me since they do not set indirect rendering for nvidia, also there doesn't seem to be any mention of the LIBGL hack needed for my laptop. Beryl runs on that with no startup options.

[Amaranth]

__GL_YIELD="NOTHING" causes as many bugs as it fixes and is definitely not needed on an SMP system.

[Guest]

Does this mean compiz by default in feisty then? If so then this is fantastic news!

[wfarr]

Does this mean compiz by default in feisty then? If so then this is fantastic news!

Sadly, no.

That particular spec is dependent, at the moment, on a decision about the binary drivers issue, which is still something facing quite a bit of scrutiny.

It does, however, mean that Ubuntu users starting with Feisty _can_ simply enable the Universe repo, install and the "desktop-effects", which installs compiz et al, and the Fedora Control Center GUI for Desktop Effects.

[mikedee]

That particular spec is dependent, at the moment, on a decision about the binary drivers issue, which is still something facing quite a bit of scrutiny.

As far as I know this is the real debate that is going on. The compiz/beryl decision will be made when and if that is agreed.

My personal bet is that they will not have a default compositing manager. In my personal opinion its all a bit too unstable at the moment, they should make it easy to install but not default it for everyone. The drivers seem to have the most issues and variability.

We will see in time though :)

[cheguevara]

Hi,
Will a kde themer be included in your feisty repositories soon (the one thats now in compiz head)?

Thanks

[Who]

Gandaln: Thanks for your packages,

The other day I switched back to XGL because I was sick of working around black windows and instability (64mb GF 4 MX440), and your packages didn't _seem_ to work immediately

In order to get them to work, I had to ue LD_PRELOAD=/usr/lib/nvidia/libGL.so.1.2.xlibmesa
before the compiz binary. otherwise I just got white windows. 'compiz-quinn' used to use a wrapper as /usr/bin/compiz and compiz.real as the binary...

Is this just a cheeky and flukey fix for the glproto codes mismatch David talked about on the mailing list, or is it something else? Is it important that your packages employ this technique for XGL users? I really don't know, but I'm sure some of you guys will :)

Happy Christmas and New Year all,

Who